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From Northwoods to Hip-Hop - The Jake LaCoste Story 🦡🧀 On Tap #197
When Wisconsin's own Jake LaCoste, the rapper who's in the hip-hop scene with a breath of North woods air, sits down with us, you can expect a whirlwind tour of genuine storytelling. Up North Jake doesn't just wear his iconic Badger hat; he brings a treasure trove of experiences, from the life lessons hunting and fishing to the raw, transformative narratives of overcoming addiction. His message is powerful: staying true to yourself isn't just a motto, it's a way of life, especially in the cutthroat music industry. Our discussion weaves through the cozy country lanes of his hip-hop domain, where passion becomes the currency of connection with fans far and wide.
0:00 Wisconsin Rapper Discusses Music Journey
11:32 Navigating Content Creation and Authenticity
19:18 Tour Stories and Green Room Tales
30:35 Touring, Performance, and Merchandise
39:34 Music Influence and Creativity Conversation
45:53 Dream Collabs and Comedy Rap
51:40 Meeting Industry Figures
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ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the on tap podcast. Today we have a very special guest, our neighbor to the east, uh, wisconsin man himself up north, jake, jake lacoste, up north, boy green bay packers fan rapper redneck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I felt that connection with you yes you got to spot it when you're around all these fucking vikings pussies. You gotta. You gotta spot it. When you're around all these fucking Vikings pussies, you gotta feel it out with your bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we were talking about this a little bit off camera, but when you first walked in it was raining outside so you had it tucked in your jacket. But we were saying that we were hoping you were going to bring this infamous Badger hat that we see in all your videos.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir, he had to come through, he had to make an appearance this Badger hat.
Speaker 1:where did you even get this? What's the story of this thing and why do you wear it in all your videos?
Speaker 4:this is the fucking crown of wisconsin right here. We named him claws and I received him from a friend, a fan, a supporter, whatever you want to call it. Um, but it's crazy, because I manifested him. I really did. I'm like man that'd be so badass to have a badger fucking headdress.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 4:That's what we got.
Speaker 1:Dude, the warmest hats I've ever worn are animals like this Coyotes, foxes, badger. I've never seen a badger one until now, but it looks just as good as I thought it would.
Speaker 3:The claws are what really does it for me, because everyone's seen the furry hat before, but if you got the arm with the claws hanging off, yeah, oh man, they got the perfect arm span for that. What a look.
Speaker 1:So, jake, we really wanted to get you on because your videos have popped up on our feed for a very long time. We've been a big fan of your content, big fan of your music and, uh, I guess really, we just want to get you on. Shoot the shit, get to know you a little bit.
Speaker 4:So who are you and what do you do? I'm jake lacoste. I'm a rapper, singer, touring musician. Uh, I also go by the alias up north jake just because it was a lot easier to introduce myself. Yeah, is that. And um, I'm coming out with an album up north jake on the fourth. That way, every time you search that I'm able to just take over all the pictures on google and everything like that. But, uh, it's been quite the journey. Um, I do a lot of music about the north woods. I do a lot of music about, you know, the, the family activities that we get to enjoy up North hunting, fishing, fish fries, uh, just just hanging out with the family and stuff, and that's kind of where my aim has been for some time. But uh, I also touch on like the addiction recovery and things are a little deeper, you know, for people to get through. Uh, positive messages of motivation. You know, those are things that I'm constantly making songs about and making pieces of content about.
Speaker 1:Hell, yeah, I mean, like I said, we've been big fans of your music. Who actually put us on to you is our buddy, travis DPK, dirty Prescott Kids. Yeah, he put us on to your music and, honestly, ever since then we've been big followers. So thanks for coming on, man. We appreciate it, appreciate you guys. So like being being in music obviously we've had a lot of musicians on here, we've had a lot of rednecks on here and you kind of mesh into both of these categories. Do you think now like being in like the country lane of hip-hop? Do you think that's harder to grow or easier to grow than, let's say, a traditional hip-hop route?
Speaker 4:I don't, I guess I don't. I've thought about this shit a lot. I mean, this is a. This is a real topic, because when we all think about rap, we think of gangster rap. But it's like, man, there's been a lot of different music to come out and, um, I feel like whatever's true to you is going to be easier because people know you're not full of shit. Yeah, yeah, I did we?
Speaker 3:I feel like every content creator, every artist, every person on here who we have on who's really passionate about whatever it is that they do. It doesn't matter be it music or content creation or anything. As long as you're passionate about it and it's it's really true to you, it comes out so much more authentic. It comes out so much better than if you try and play that character right, because if you play that character, people pick up on it instantly. Absolutely, authenticity is what I mean, I think what people really see and what they really appreciate yeah, we were just talking about this.
Speaker 1:We we have a segment on the podcast called motivational monday, when we were just talking about on one of those episodes that if you don't do what you're passionate about or portray the person that you actually are, people see that and they're like that seems ingenuine, that's not actually them. It shows through Obviously not the case in your position, but do you think that it limits you in some regards as far as people that it would have reached had it been topically different?
Speaker 4:I think about that a lot too, but at some point you can't care yeah.
Speaker 1:Just do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4:I always say this because people like to dabble in things. So when people come to do music, they like to do one song and then show every single person music. They like to do one song and then show every single person. It's like they're not even making like enough music to get good at doing music and at the end of the day, that one song isn't going to tell their entire story. So if you hear fish fry like I got a song called fish fry. We know what the hell fish fry is. But when you're down in like you know arizona, like they're like what, there ain't no lakes down there. They're not, you know, having fish fries. But um, that's why the song is really about family and culture in like those gatherings that we have up north that are super rare. So at the end of the day, it's just about family yeah, who can't?
Speaker 3:relate to that it's a lot more about the message than the story Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally. Now here's the thing, though I don't think that that's rare, just in this form is rare. But like in every other part of the United States, that's like a different culture. You know, like the South, the East, the West, whatever, they all have their own version of that. You know, down South, their own version of that. You know, down south, it's the cookout.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know on the west it's a beach fire or whatever the case. Yeah, it's all. It's kind of like the same thing, just a different form of it, you know absolutely so I think when, when people see it for what it is, when really just like a meeting of the minds, hanging out with my buddies, hanging out with my family, whatever, then they see like, oh okay, that's where the relatability comes from, I think absolutely yeah, and I think that's why your music really relates on a level like that.
Speaker 1:Obviously, you've been doing it for a really long time too. How long have you been making music?
Speaker 4:I got my first studio when I was 21 years old and I'm 39 now damn dude 18 years. That's crazy and that's just recording myself. So I had other people recording me for a few years. But I mean, dude, you just evolve and start changing stuff and then, like it's like, I can't say, the artist from 15 years ago would be here. You know what I mean. I had to evolve into a product that was respected by you guys and other people yeah, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3:You have to like we were talking about that this morning as well, when we were doing our motivational mondays you kind of have to. It's good to set a goal, but it's not. You have to adapt to that goal and change that goal as you go along your path, because what you want right now is probably not what you wanted when you started rapping. It's probably a very different picture in your mind.
Speaker 4:Yeah, even last year, right, yeah, exactly for real. It's like last year or the year before I was like man, tour, tour, tour, tour tour. And then it's like you run yourself down and you miss like a month and a half with your kids and you're like, oh man, that really wasn't that cool, right do you do music full-time yes so what?
Speaker 2:what's the schedule like for a full-time artist that like, obviously, you know you're, you're doing your grind, but you're not, you're not on the high scale, it's not like you're. Yeah, you know you're not yellow wolf, but you're in your grind. What's, what's the schedule like for, like, a mid-level artist, you know, on their way up?
Speaker 4:well to even put more perspective on that. Like, um, someone who's doing like a great amount of streams they may have more of a pillow than I do, yeah, uh, but I have a rapport with more venues than a lot of people do, so I'm able to go, pop off shows and get a bankroll where they may be doing x amount of streams and they're like have no idea how to even do it.
Speaker 2:You have. You have years of connections.
Speaker 4:I have years of connections and I have equipment enough to do it all by myself. Like I can pull up to a dive and throw a whole show. Like I'll dial in my sound everything Like I don't. I've honed those crafts around getting money other ways than streaming.
Speaker 1:Which is a brilliant idea, because that's where a lot of people fall short just relying on that. And you. It's like I mean, we were just talking about this earlier too but getting caught in this like cycle of the only way I make money is if my video gets X amount of hundreds of thousands of views, and then you're stuck in the cycle of how can I get that? And then the content turns into creating for the views instead of creating for what you really wanted to do. So I mean good on you, dude, because that's the 100% way to do it.
Speaker 4:That's how you still have fun doing it for that long I get stuck in that, so I'm I'm really glad you brought that up, because I'm sure there's a ton of people dealing with that shit oh, they're just like well, I seen this, this guy do this and now I should do this. Dude, I'm going to you know what. I'm going to be transparent, I've done that. Watching my good friend Trav, like this guy is so talented at these videos and I'm like and they're so entertaining and I'm just like God, he's good at this.
Speaker 1:So good Talented performer. He just looks the part you know him and caroline. It's like dude, I can't name a better couple for this position that they both are in. Like they're both of their images. They're just so well put together. Yeah, they crush it, yeah. But here's the thing like I couldn't hop on a boat with my wife and film myself lip-syncing into a video and get a couple million views like there's just something about these guys.
Speaker 1:They just yes, they just create so much exposure for themselves, you know, with what seems to be so little effort. Obviously not the case, but it's it's. There's something to be said about the craft of it, because thinking about what you're doing and and doing it are two totally different things. And that's actually one thing that I really wanted to get into it with you, cause I've seen you post a lot of different content. You post your music, you post like vlog style content. You post like some motivational stuff, you post you rollerblading, you post like all sorts of different stuff. So like what, what do you like? Do you have an idea of, like what you're posting? When you're posting, you just kind of like, do it, make it and then put it up.
Speaker 4:I have a hard time like trying to follow that regimen because I'm just like a human dude Like I do a lot of things, you know, like um, were we talking about golfing earlier? Yeah, dude, I'll go golfing, Like I know how to golf.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, dude, you gotta come to the golf tourney, but I don't golf, but I just love to explore things, dude.
Speaker 4:It's like why the hell do I have to do one thing over and over? I've seen this one dude I honestly don't even know his name and he puts a 360 cam on his head and he just runs around and I'm just like fuck man, if I was Is this the?
Speaker 1:guy from Eau Claire, I think so, the Jaren guy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the Jaren guy, and shout out to that guy dude, fucking, you're a genius. I don't know if I'm supposed to swear. Am I not supposed to swear?
Speaker 3:No, you're good, Okay cool. You're the fuck you want, okay, cool.
Speaker 4:I'm like this dude's a genius. But then I'm like if I was pigeon-held into that, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm sorry I was. Yeah, I shouldn't be so, whatever, right, but um, but I couldn't, I just couldn't. There was like when I did bloody dough and you guys messaged me on that.
Speaker 1:Thank you, guys like yo, this song is fucking fire I've been singing that all day and these guys are like what the fuck?
Speaker 4:and I'm like damn dude, like that's dope, that it reached those guys. So I kind of tried something different and did like a hundred fucking reels of the same fucking song and it drove me nuts. That's what people do.
Speaker 4:I didn't like it, I didn't like doing that, bro, and I'm like God and I and I've been talking uh to my homie Ryan about, like, my message. I think once you dial in the message, you know more of what the content is. Definitely you know, and I don't really I don't maybe not have my message totally fucking dialed in yet, you know, I'm just, I'm just uh, I was on social media when social media started by by necessity, you know what I mean. Like I've been printing cds for you know, since cds were cds yeah like we.
Speaker 4:You know, I was still on limewire like probably four years, five years before I was printing cds, but I think I was like 18 or 19 when I printed my first cds. You know, maybe 20, but still man, it's like, relatively you know, new, so um, the internet was just because I had to do it, you know. So it's like when I'm feeling myself doing all this stuff, sometimes I'm fucking uncomfortable, but I think that's kind of cool to even post that like hey, y'all, you don't have to have perfect video, because if you don't fucking do the videos, you're never even gonna make good videos, exactly yeah, and there there's more like uh, what do you?
Speaker 3:what's the word I'm looking for? There's more proof of that on the internet than anything else. Like, you don't have to make this perfect movie, quality video to be popular, or even, if that's not what you're looking for, to just enjoy your content that you're putting out and if someone else likes it, good for fucking them. Yeah, that's the way to do it, man that is the way to do it why corner yourself into some niche where you need to have it this perfect?
Speaker 3:like cody is very picky about how we do our shit, very picky about the audio, very picky about cameras and things like that, but that's what he does and that's what he enjoys and that's why it's like that.
Speaker 1:It drives me nuts, honestly, because it's like, oh, what's the shutter speed at what's the iso, at what's the aperture? He's so passionate about that. That's why it's good.
Speaker 3:It's not because it needs to be, it's not because that's what, the only thing that we're putting out, but it's something that can keep him busy and keep him like, keep me, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, in the world of creators.
Speaker 4:Uh, we got to take a few extra steps to set ourselves apart, especially if we take it seriously too, you know, because, like dude, if you're just gonna sit here and shoot cell phone videos all day and never evolve, then it's like, I guess, uh, and that's kind of with artists too, like, when these artists come in, they got 10 chains on. It's like, well, why are we supporting somebody who was already okay, like you're good man, you got it. But when we watch, like I remember wiz khalifa coming up, like dude, I remember when he got his first, or the first chain he came in with was the p pittsburgh chain, you know it's like, dude, how many chains has he had since then? But I remember the second one too, it was the zigzag one. So, like, when you support an artist from their first chain to like, you know this fucking superstardom.
Speaker 4:It really means something. And so, yeah, going from this to this shows growth, shows evolution and uh, but I definitely wanted to be on here way more because you guys have your shit together yeah, definitely, I think it's a little bit.
Speaker 3:It's funny, it's weird thing that people do like to to shit on that low level content creator. Though you know like, just because it's something that you don't like doesn't mean you have to go after them like we, like. We hear it a lot of like oh, you're taking this idea from this podcast or not? Everyone needs to start a podcast or you're just copying the fucking Nelk Boys, or you're just doing this. But it's like why are you shitting on me for doing something that I like to do, instead of just continuing?
Speaker 1:Also, a lot of times we've never even seen that content. It just by nature because we consume the same material.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it's like well, everyone just comes off similar, Everybody dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. Like well, everyone just comes off, similar, everybody dude yeah, 100. But here's the thing too, when it comes to like a lower level content creator, like if they're making stuff with their phone, that might be the only thing they have, and then right now, if as long as in my opinion, as long as they're progressively getting better and showing like they're putting effort into it. You know, like one thing that I can really appreciate watching your content is that I know you're in a fucking grind, like not only when I click on your page, I see the last video that I just watched, but 50 other ones up ahead of that.
Speaker 1:So like you're constantly putting out new material and that almost is like a proof of concept, and it's like, okay, not only is this what I want to do, I'm like actively doing it, and that's what a lot of people, I think, fall short on. It's like they want to identify as a rapper, as a YouTuber, as a musician, whatever you name it, but they don't want to put the effort into it. It's just they want that to be their identity. And that's where this like weird thing comes in, where it kind of comes off as a little bit cringy, you know, so do you have, like you have like a strategy that you do with, like posting your videos or even putting out music? Like what does that look like? Do you schedule, like when you make music?
Speaker 4:it's changing so much all the time so I've just rolled with the punches. So this album I'm back to being independent. The album before this I was working with a label called burn county and then everything before that was independent. So I learned a lot working with them for a couple years, mainly that, um, I fucking hate working slow. I don't like that shit like because then I'm in my head and I'm, I just don't and I don't give a fuck about taking seven months for a song, bro, like I'll make that shit in seven hours and like we can dude. I used to get super excited about this concept of making a song in the morning and shooting the video by night.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like the whole fucking thing yeah that shit geeks me up and I think that's pretty much like a testament to how I would like to be dropping content. Yep, just Just just mass level. But then you start reading stuff and they're like this year, it's not about dropping content every day, it's about dropping the best content and I'm just like man, okay, step it up a little bit, bust out every fucking light I have for every reel I'm going to make now and make sure that it's like perfectly lit, make sure that the iPhone is picking up cinematic mode, because we need that shit now. You know and I'm still honing in on the formulas of these reels but I like doing the music video-esque shit, so I will do like three different angles. That's what I like to do right now. Um, and I'm really, really been getting geeked up about um, just to veer off of the music stuff, but this type of stuff like being able to just talk, bro, and not because I would rather talk to you than talk to the camera.
Speaker 3:Totally. It's easy for me, yeah, and it's I. For me, it's a lot easier, like as a as a content watcher. To see somebody in a setting like this and get to know them as a person makes me like their music that much more exactly to know, that, to know the person that I'm supporting instead of just a voice.
Speaker 2:Yeah is so much cooler, yeah it's what makes you more of a diehard for the artist. Like if you, if you like the artist, if you like their music and the way their music makes you feel and the way they perform. If you, if you like the artist, if you like their music and the way their music makes you feel and the way they perform, if you like enjoying their live performance, like you, just you feel a connection to this person. It's just like with podcasting you listen to people talk for hours and you feel like they're like your best friend, you know, and it's cool to make those connections.
Speaker 2:But I honestly I gotta take it back a little bit. I want to thank you first of all for getting me high as fuck, because I'm fucking feeling it, but I want to, I want to, you know, take it back a little bit. You know we've had a pretty serious conversation. I want to ask you you've been doing shows for years. Yeah, I'm sure you've done hundreds of shows. Is there something that comes to mind of like the craziest thing that's ever happened during a show, whether it's like somebody threw something at you, someone died in the crowd, like you know anything crazy.
Speaker 4:So up church I opened up for up church in joliet, illinois, or jolly at or whoever man. However, I say that someone's gonna correct me, let's start there and uh, I think there was like 500 people there. It was sold out and this was really into. Um, this was the first album I did. That was country rap. I hadn't even put it out in my first country rap album. For the record, I have like 15 other albums that I took down from the internet. Um, for message, wise sake, like they. Just a lot of the songs weren't promoting the right messages, but anyways, um, so there's 500 people at the show and um, and I'm, you know, I do a song, and then there's silence because, like, my dj stops stuff and I try to talk or whatever. It's cool that you brought up how many shows I've done, because I wasn't very good at talking at this time. Yeah, so it was just dead silent and this dude's like you suck. Oh, damn dude, that's gotta humble you.
Speaker 1:You just act like you don't hear him.
Speaker 4:Just act like you don't hear him, because no one else is saying nothing.
Speaker 2:You can't ignore. You just have to roll with the punches because they'll respect you more for that Right, Unless you hit him with a quick roast.
Speaker 3:Unless you're quick like that, like that's what I love comedians who are like that, because a lot of them will ignore it, but some of them, that's what they want. They want you to be like oh you fucking suck. And be like. I'll show you who fucking sucks, buddy, and it's not me, yeah yo, that's great.
Speaker 4:And I didn't have a roast. And then so the next song came, and same thing, and I let the vinegar up and I'm like yeah, we fucking heard you. You know what I mean. Like I got mad and uh, but dude, that, that feeling is hard man, oh, I can't even imagine in front of that many people and it takes a lot to be up there.
Speaker 1:That's gotta be nerve-wracking, you know. And there was some laugh.
Speaker 4:there was a couple giggles behind it, dude, like it wasn't one man.
Speaker 3:There was some validity in the crowd. Someone agreed with him that makes it even worse. Oh, it's so bad bro, oh fuck.
Speaker 4:And then another time I was on tour with Overtime I don't know if y'all know who Overtime is Great dude, he's taught me a ton about touring and he's taught me a ton about ad management on Facebook and so he took me on my first like run for free for the. For those of y'all that don't know, there's a few different ways to go on tour. You know, you can pay to get on, you can get paid to get on and then you can go on for free. And he took me on for free. So huge blessing. And, dude, we're in ohio I don't remember where, and it doesn't matter because it's ohio and we're in ohio. Fuck ohio, dude. It's a grimy, motherfucking state.
Speaker 2:Oh, we know we just went on a trip, we just went to ohio perfect so we're in ohio and we got, um, I want to say we're.
Speaker 4:There was probably like 150 people there and all of a sudden there's like 400 people lined up at the door and they're all a bunch of college kids, a bunch of black college kids, like they're ready to, they're ready to party dog, like they're lined up. But we're like, why the fuck are they lined up so deep, like places don't get lined up like that without having some flow coming in. Well, I'm gonna tell you why because we're still in. This motherfucker, this dude double booked us.
Speaker 1:Oh no, he double booked us with who was the other dude, I don't have a clue, because I was trying to get the fuck out of there because they're getting mad.
Speaker 4:Oh no, so they're standing and lied like mad as hell. So so you got. Uh, for context, like we're standing in front of venue around the side, about 70 feet to the back, you know there's another door and we're working our way out that door. Now right, but here's the issue everybody with a weapon is trying to get in that door because they don't want to get searched at the front oh, you're at the danger door.
Speaker 4:Exactly. So now we're in the alley, me and OT. I'm talking about all the other tour support. I won't say no names because I love them. They fucking left Bro me, ot, two other dudes we're signing, me and OT are signing autographs, while there's like a flood of 30 dudes with weapons trying to get in this door and we're trying to still look like our team's still trying to load out that door and all I have to say is the tension was so high you could feel it. You were like any little shit. This is going to be the worst case scenario. So that's my couple of tour stories right there.
Speaker 1:I couldn't have, and especially you're in a place that you don't know. All these people Obviously you don't know I mean a lot of them probably didn't know who you were because they were. Some of them were there for this other show that was booked.
Speaker 4:Bro, we look like white supremacists with the vests and the rings the biker rings and shit. We don biker rings and shit. We don't. We ain't got a bunch of black people on our on our squads like I. I've had black people on my squad before, but at this moment it it just wasn't that case, you know were they saying anything about this?
Speaker 1:like no, well did they make I?
Speaker 4:think someone else heard something in it dude it was. I'm not a scary motherfucker, but I know when there's imminent danger, like I know when I could get stomped the fuck out and left in an alley. Like I'm not a scary motherfucker, but I know when there's imminent danger, like I know when I could get stomped the fuck out and left in an alley. Like I'm not dumb. Were you wearing the badger? No, this was pre badger. I always wore the badger on my, on my vest, though with the Wisconsin on it, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was back in 2010,. Uh, bb.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, uh, bb, yeah, so like that before badger, before badger, yeah, I couldn't imagine going on tour. I've always thought would be really, really fun because you're in new places all the time, but I would imagine there's definitely some downside to that. We've been in a couple of places where the green rooms are basically just a concrete dungeon. You know, um, can you think back to any venues that you've played at where there's been like funny stuff in the green room or like I mean just a wild looking green room or stuff behind the scenes that people wouldn't know?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I remember the good ones. I don't remember because the bad ones you just kind of move the fuck around real fast. You're like well, I'm not chilling in this motherfucker yeah, I will sit in the car. But uh, the good ones have showers and kitchens really damn I've never been in a good one. I'll tell you that I've taken a shower before I've left a venue before. I'll tell you that damn yep, like, if there's a long drive, bro, I'm like, oh, I'm hitting the shower for sure, that's way nice, that's sweet I would never guess I was just.
Speaker 3:I was gonna go on to a whole new topic.
Speaker 4:So if you got something to say, well, just to just to wrap it up, I've seen like some really cool amenities like dude. Some venue owners are the shit bro. They will. They'll load you up with an ounce of weed and the fruit tray and the fucking everything, bro. So it's pretty cool and some fans will come through with, like Kansas City, my boy Matt, he'll come through with trays of barbecue for the squad, bro.
Speaker 3:That's sweet, so it's really fucking cool.
Speaker 3:on another level, I was just going to say the whole being on tour. Obviously it's so much traveling and we were just telling you we did that road trip to ohio, like that's that's the best part of a trip for me, but it can also by far be the worst part of a trip, like, like we did what was it? 11 hours one way on the way home, like the boys finally started to get a little chippy with each other. It was a lot of roasting everyone and then on the way home we started roasting each other and I'm like this shit could get bad. Yeah, luckily I drove the whole way home.
Speaker 3:Everyone else went to bed like a bunch of dickheads but hey, I had you mitch but like what's what's some of your best, like road trip and on the road tour touring stories, um, like are you? Are you on a bus or you guys like have a caravan of cars I have to take my own vehicle because of what?
Speaker 4:what you basically just said. Like, even with the homies, dude, it gets a little crazy. They can. I'd keep one homie with me. My homie larry is, he's my, he's my right hand, he just he wears seven hats. I wear seven hats, like it just it's a lot of hats. It's a lot, but it it works the best that way because, um, dude, it just gets a little tedious, tedious being around each other so fucking long.
Speaker 3:It can it can, and I think that's a testament of having a real friend too, because if you've got a fake friend, then you can bullshit for however long, but if you've got a real friend, eventually you motherfuckers just start to hate each other. Yeah, absolutely, you guys are going to want to punch each other in the face at some point.
Speaker 4:Bro, we're almost to your house to drop you off let me give you some weed.
Speaker 1:Have a great night. I love you. See you never.
Speaker 2:That is the vibe saver that's what can save the group from the tension. Getting too high is a little bit a smoke session between the boys. Oh yeah it, dude. That's the way to make friends, that's the way to win over your, your friends that you're fighting with like it's just it. It heals you as a person, man.
Speaker 1:We just fucking heals you man you're turning into a shaman over here, right, dude shout out, shout out, shout out.
Speaker 3:Deck of l shout out everything I think, if I don't uh, since I don't smoke, I think the best thing for me on a road trip is if we can find common hatred. I will bond with you more than anything.
Speaker 2:If we can find something that we both hate. Oh man, we can go for hours. Dude, you preach positivity, mitch preaches negativity.
Speaker 3:I just think it's so fun to have a common hatred with someone. Yo, it's easy, it's easy.
Speaker 4:But my leadership coach says let it pass through three filters before you say it Is it.
Speaker 3:I think he before you say it is it? I think he said is it? Um, oh, look, I'll start with is it?
Speaker 4:kind. So you're already fucking up, we'll just go there. It's not ever is it? Uh, does it need to be said? Is it kind and is it? I think it's helpful or something. Does it bring value? Those are the three filters mitch.
Speaker 3:So you're fucked, I'm fucked on all three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the answer no, no and no, but I think I, for whatever reason, I think maybe I'm fucked on all three.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the answer no, no and no, but I think, for whatever reason, I think maybe I'm fucked up in the head, but I think if I can find something that me and you both hate and we both can talk about how much we hate it, that there's no better bonding in my mind.
Speaker 4:I mean, everybody hates something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, and it doesn't have to be a good thing Like fucking nazis, yeah, or pedophiles, yeah pedophiles.
Speaker 1:We can both hate pedophiles I and we can.
Speaker 4:I agree it's not very kind. They're people too. No, no, you just got. This is the shit that he does. You just lost that conversation here's the thing, though.
Speaker 1:That's. The problem is uh, never mind, I was gonna throw mitch, let me get some back to the tour story.
Speaker 4:Okay, yeah, um, you know, I want to let people know because you might be a dreamer out here, right, like dude, those crowds and those people, there's no feeling like that man, like performing your art in front of people who appreciate it.
Speaker 2:That is the best thing about tour, no matter what dude, dude I can't even fucking imagine, because I had about a minute of fame where we threw. We threw a halloween party and dpk performed and we had him on the first time he was here. Uh, we told him that I was singing the ronnie d and dr peppa part. Yes, he's like oh, I can't hit those notes anymore.
Speaker 2:If I'm ever doing a show that you're there, I'm gonna have you come out and sing ronnie d and dr peppa with me yes and so we went on this trailer and we performed it together and, dude, like having everyone line up in front of the trailer and like I remember flashing my phone around and people were like, ah, like people get crazy, white people get wild in front of the camera, and like just being in front of everyone and performing, like I only performed for, you know, 30 seconds total, but it was fucking crazy dude.
Speaker 3:It's like a real drug absolutely I get that feeling about the whole entire halloween party in general or the golf tournament, like the idea that we made this event happen and people showed up because we made this event happen. Like just seeing the not even the sales but just seeing the people come into the event itself is like damn, that's fucking cool that we can just round up a bunch of people that equally fuck with us and like to have a good time on top of that.
Speaker 1:It's like 99 of the people there have a very similar outlook on life that we do and we know that, so it's really easy to get along no, it's going to be a good time, and we know that they're also meeting with other like-minded people that they've never met.
Speaker 1:There's so much to talk about. They don't know anything about each other, so it's a lot of fun because we pair these groups together especially for the golf tournament that have never even talked to each other before on purpose, so that it's like way more fun. The beers start flowing, it starts getting chippy, we had a sponsor donate three ounces of weed at our last golf tournament. Yes, and he rolled them all into joints for us, so we just passed out like a hundred something joints dude, everyone that came in just hand them a couple.
Speaker 4:It was like hey, you want, you want to grab a handful whatever it was so fun, so everyone was having a great time minnesota for their legalization 100.
Speaker 1:It's so cool, big time what.
Speaker 2:What's the like. Do you know the most amount of people you've ever performed in front of?
Speaker 4:I. I think it was just like. It's only been like 600.
Speaker 3:I mean dude, that's fucking, that's a shitload of people I can't even imagine being in staging for 600 people.
Speaker 2:What is that like? Like, what are you? Are you a nervous guy in general? Do you have?
Speaker 4:anxiety? Well, not with this. So I mean, performing is just awesome to me. But, dude, this lat, this last I just uh, did a couple shows with savannah, dexter and bravo gator and man, the first one we did, because it's been a minute since I've been back in that like bigger room. I was pretty fucking nervous, but I just, I really I get so excited, dude, I'm like ready to just yell, basically yeah, and once I'm like once I'm just like yeah, yeah, yeah, like that's the first thing I say when I come out.
Speaker 4:It's like oh, and then it just uh, you know, ice and snow comes on, dude. And it's just like representing for the northwoods after that that's sweet um.
Speaker 1:So you said you opened for up church. Yes, did you ever get to meet him?
Speaker 4:no, oh really how does that work out?
Speaker 1:like he's in kind of a different area, like the headliners are in a different area, you're not allowed in the green room, depending on who it is.
Speaker 4:So, like Demon Jones, like he was cool with having me in the green room Because some of these people I've already, like, had a rapport with their artists or people that they fuck with. So I've been able to get in the back rooms of a lot of places. But sometimes it just isn't like that, like with Savannah Dexter and Bravo. I didn't get in the back room. I literally waited an extra hour just to have them when they walked out, just to thank them, and I carried some merch for them to the truck. So I'm just a super grinder, bro.
Speaker 1:I just want to be a part of the team yeah, no matter what team I'm working with at that moment absolutely, and that's obviously a testament to how you've been able to take it for so long, because people that don't put in extra effort or care don't get those opportunities, and that's why you get asked to go to places.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a lot of people don't, yeah because it would be really easy for you to be like oh, he didn't let me in his green room, fuck him oh yeah, it's not like that, and a lot of people do that is a lot of people's mentality for sure that guy probably has never even met you.
Speaker 1:He's not even the one that said no and then they're like fuck that guy. Yep, dude, you never even talked to him.
Speaker 4:I'm, I'm all right, I'm not. I don't to get philosophical, but the four agreements. Y'all heard of the four agreements? Never, you know, never never make assumptions.
Speaker 1:What's his name? Neil. What's the who's the author of that?
Speaker 4:I'd have to ask my boy out there man.
Speaker 1:Dude, I listened to the audio book of that last year, Actually Great great book.
Speaker 4:Assume this dude is like blowing you off, you know, and nothing's personal. He sees it so he's not doing it to be like. You know, he's got shit going on and uh, you just find a way to fucking insert yourself in the way of opportunity man absolutely, absolutely what.
Speaker 1:What do they say is success is when luck meets opportunity, or when preparation meets luck. Right, you know? So, like, if you're not putting in the work when that situation does arise, when you're not willing to carry a box of merch, that's what's going to get you the the extra conversation and that's what's going to get them to remember you right, realistically right and even um, I I've seen this other thing is like it's law.
Speaker 4:Like you put in that extra work, um, you're going to get paid back for it. It may not even be by that situation. So it's really just law, man, like just grind. Yeah, absolutely fuck. Else are you doing?
Speaker 2:absolutely. I want to shout out the merch. I see you're, you're part of thought throttle clan my boy mitch here. He's also part of a clan, so you guys got that in that's fucked.
Speaker 3:That's a crazy thing to say this is a family no, dude shout out.
Speaker 2:I love the bucket hat dude, it's yo appreciate it.
Speaker 1:That's sweet, do you? Do you design a lot of your own stuff yeah, um, well, the staple use.
Speaker 4:The staple is this, this font. You know what I mean. So, uh, I learned a while ago to not really change the font, just change, like, the colors and the styles of shit. But yeah, I'm a, I'm a mild designer dude. I, I do it again kind of out of necessity, but I fucking love the dress and I I mean it. Just um, I might get into creating more clothes later. Like I think it's cool to do one piece at a time and just spend a lot of time on it, but I've done that before. But, uh, with my vest, I should have brought my vest in, but, um, I, I love having the only thing that, like, I'm the only one wearing that thing, like, you're not going to be able to just like.
Speaker 4:If you're wearing the same fucking thing as me, man, it's like god damn, are you fucking twins in here, or?
Speaker 1:something, and also there's something to be said, like you're just giving money to a company that does nothing for you, right? You know all, all of them, and as I say this, as i'm'm wearing, you know you're wearing he's wearing my sweatshirt.
Speaker 4:This is my videography company.
Speaker 1:Yes, but you know like I get so much pride out of wearing our merch. You know I'm always wearing an ONTAP shirt or ONTAP hat, yeah, all the time. And people notice that. You know, and people locally, I'm assuming, have bought it because they've seen us or our friends wearing the merch already and it's such a good feeling to be like okay, now you're, you're buying this. Not only are you wearing something that's badass, but also you're supporting the, the dream to work. You know your passion.
Speaker 4:Literally it's supporting the whole thing you guys get pictures and then people tag you.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's the best definitely, definitely a lot on snapchat. That's awesome. That's like the main dude spot.
Speaker 4:You cannot do one without the other right like you gotta have everything pumping because you'll be like, oh snap, I've been neglecting that. Then you're throwing up it's like 400 views, like fuck dog, like even if I take 10 of them, motherfuckers with me, we're making a little bit of something yeah yeah, so it's. It's cool to see what everybody's using and how these videos kind of work in different places better you know what have you learned in the journey so far that you could tell yourself when you're first starting music?
Speaker 4:the journey's the best part that the process like yeah, love of just doing it yeah, because, to bring it back to the social media thing, when you start thinking you have to make certain, I love how you said that shit like dude, you're just you're uploading it because it's like dope to you. If they like it, fuck it. They like it. Yeah, as long as you can stay in that, you're gonna win because you're gonna make your best shit so it's gonna transfer the best, which, again, this is where best.
Speaker 1:Which, again, this is where Travis DPK, this is where he excels. Yes, he's literally just filming his life and it works. He's so good at it. He's so witty and fucking funny.
Speaker 2:Naturally.
Speaker 4:He's naturally witty and funny. So I was going to tell a story about us at Snowcross, because I'm not around them a lot. So at snow cross, because I'm not around them a lot, so I don't know how they create content. They are so like in the fucking moment. So caroline busts out the phone. Everyone they're running up to the phone. I'm like talking to like this uh person they brought with them, this girl they brought with them. I'm like talking, oh yeah, and all of a sudden she like turns the camera on me and I'm like like dude, I don't know how to do that shit outside, but at the same time I do. But like I, I don't know how they create content right so it was like damn, you just missed a moment.
Speaker 1:Dip shit, everyone has a different process, for sure and we've noticed that doing the podcast, where it's like some people like you that are just naturally comfortable on camera, you can just get in, we can just put on the headphones and start. Yeah, there's other times where we're sitting there for an hour explaining okay, this is what we're gonna do, this is what it's gonna look like, this is what it is, and then they just have all these questions about the process of it that would give me anxiety I was, I'm.
Speaker 3:I was literally in panic mode when we hit record today, because we didn't hang out with you out there for that long oh, dude, we're hanging out right now. That's what I'm saying, though, like you, you're doing a very good job of it, but like otherwise we like I would rather sit out in that room before the cameras ever turn on and feel someone out for like an hour and a half green room.
Speaker 1:Our green room doesn't have a shower, that's interesting that.
Speaker 3:So, like when we came in here, I'm like, I'm like, fuck, I don't even know this guy yet.
Speaker 4:Wait, you don't have a shower, we don't. I was trying to shower for our league.
Speaker 3:We got a toilet.
Speaker 4:He's going to get sweaty. That's pretty crazy, though I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:I thought, you guys maybe 30 minutes but yeah, I mean, it does take away from the conversation sometimes though I will say that there's give and take.
Speaker 3:Because started to ask me things and it's like we don't need to regurgitate that shit. You don't want to burn it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's, there's definitely a fine line there, but like you know you were, I mean we were only out there for what? Maybe 10-15 minutes. Oh yeah, we got in here and I was like panic mode about it because I'm like I don't know, I don't know this guy you're doing, you're killing it, by the way this is a very good interview like I'm, I like it we have that weed man.
Speaker 2:We've basically been friends for 10 years.
Speaker 4:No, if you guys have been like bro, you cannot smoke in here. I'm like it would have put a little fucking you know what I'm saying on me. I'd be like, damn bro, they ain't really friendly with that. Why'd you even ask these guys fucking suck.
Speaker 1:This guy's carrying around a fucking badger or something. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4:So give, so give us, give us a little bit of your background. I'm curious like what, what was like your upbringing like, and why did you choose to start doing music? I think I've always loved music. Um, I'm an only child.
Speaker 4:I spent my summers up in three lakes, wisconsin, which is, uh, about 45 minutes from the up state line, you know okay michigan, so up north for real and that's, um, that's what's kind of, that's what kind of put the country in me like, even though my city, you know we got uh, the chipo river flows right through my city. There's cliffs we used to jump off of when we were kids and like everything is country city in my city, like you're riding your bike through the city to get to the cliffs, you're riding your bike through the city to get to the cliffs, you're riding your bike through the city and then walking down to the river. So it's, it's just a really country city vibe. But up north in three lakes, dude, it's dirt road, like it's fucking country.
Speaker 4:And my grandparents had a house on the lake, so a lot of catching frogs, turtles, fishing, um, they bought me a jet ski for a couple years. I got to smash that out. My grandpa had dude and I I think I broke it, if I remember correctly. Naturally yeah, naturally my grandpa had a pontoon, so we used to fish off the pontoon a lot. Um, my grandma, just she nurtured my creativity a lot. I I remember her writing down the lyrics to Wizard of Oz for me when I was super young and just that was kind of my earliest recollection of being that interested in music where I wanted to memorize the words, so I always kind of bring that up. But when I got a little older I had a stepdad for about eight years that was really into music, um, and systems and cars. So he had a uh 93 blazer that he painted um purple and it was just, it was like the coolest fucking thing that was the best version of the blazer they ever made.
Speaker 1:Dude, those are the most comfortable goddamn cars that you can own he had two 18 inch subs in there.
Speaker 4:He had lowered it um on some spokes and put a teal green stripe down the side of it all the kids in my neighborhood were like dog, that shit. You know that was. That was the shit and um, and I rolled around with him for some years three, four years in that motherfucker and so there was a lot of music culture being pumped into my head at that time that was.
Speaker 3:That was what I was going to ask you is what's the music that got you into music? Because it's always interesting to hear, like, what artists grew up on and what they're like working towards, who they fuck with now. Like, what's the music that got you started on music?
Speaker 1:besides, wizard of oz, besides, yes, wizard of oz.
Speaker 4:Bro, I thought we just went through this no, um, it's definitely rap, because that was the shit that I started recording, right, so I didn't like start with a band, so, uh, rap was. Is that like?
Speaker 3:like 90s rap, like I just fucking.
Speaker 4:I just completely disrespected the shit out of minnesota.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry, but atmosphere is what really got me yeah yeah I'm sorry y'all yeah, I like forgot all era there every minute, okay, but when I got into my teenage years, my homie was a couple years older. He had his license and we were going to first ave um, seeing atmosphere and everybody they brought with them like asap rock, asap rock um idea and abilities, um, and then the whole battle circuit was huge for me. So that's when Eminem went out to LA and all that I was into that. When he was like doing that and I had no, you know, we had no idea who the fuck he was. Yeah, but definitely slug from Atmosphere and every fucking buddy he brought up is the reason I started rapping and like battling kids and and competing and stopped doing all my school work and writing music all day long. That that's definitely the reason that culture that he created who's like the like I.
Speaker 3:We've asked this question to like just whatever rapper we've had on you. But who's your dream collab? We do one dead and one alive of amy winehouse for the dead.
Speaker 1:Oh interesting, that would be a really good collab and alive the badger, besides dpk the badgers, the dead one if the badger could come alive and just spit a verse yeah, claws, who the fuck killed this guy?
Speaker 4:we need info. Um, I'm gonna try and pick one faster than later here. I I'm definitely gonna go with. I'll say um, oh fuck bro, I'm not jesus I just somebody to pick from no, it's uh, dude cory taylor okay, yeah, I don't know you guys fucking kidding dude. You better edit that out.
Speaker 3:Slipknot lead man oh, okay, I do know, of course I'm not good with me, never mind you, I do a lot of other music.
Speaker 4:I have like a lot of rock music. I'm working on the shit that hasn't seen the light of day yet. So there's. For me, music is just like in its full artistry it's. You know, I would pick singers over rappers.
Speaker 3:Okay, so are you trying to stay like in? Well, obviously not, because you're making rock music. You don't really have a direction. You're just kind of making whatever you think is fucking dope, right yeah?
Speaker 4:absolutely. It's just you try to section these songs out into projects so they fit each other. You know what I mean. I have like soft rock songs, bro. If. If I let you hear them on here, you'd be like what the fuck is going on. So when I introduce it to the world, it's got to be introduced properly.
Speaker 1:Like yo, this is called fucking all my emotions you know, whatever right, otherwise it can come off like what the fuck right? What is going on?
Speaker 4:but there's a couple singing songs on there and if you look at like lost, found um something to prove. These are songs that are all out that have singing hooks that I sang. So like singing isn't. It isn't like new to me, I'm doing it all the time yeah.
Speaker 3:So would you get like would you rather just be considered as, like an artist than a rapper?
Speaker 4:I call myself a rapper singer, rapper, singer.
Speaker 1:Sounds simple, easy enough, sam and I and a touring musician. Baby Cause, those are all different things Sam and I were just talking about. We wanna start making Parody rap songs, sick. We wanna just start making Just funny raps. We wanna be a new age Weird Al.
Speaker 4:Did you guys live through that era? How old are you?
Speaker 1:motherfuckers anyways. 28 24.
Speaker 3:I'm 22.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you didn't fucking I had a weird al cassette when I was a kid. My mom put me on early. We had a cassette in this minivan that we would drive around in and we and she would play this cassette, a lot of these songs. I didn't even realize I had heard weird al's version before the normal so I thought some of these songs were just completely original.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm like, wow, this guy's he's like who the songs are so good? He's like just eat it, eat it, god. Like bro, it's beat it the.
Speaker 1:He's like I don't remember which one it is, but it was, uh, got a boogie on my finger and I can't shake it off that that one. That was the cassette that I had and I remember my mom and I like memorize all these songs. I'm like, oh, my god, like this is so good.
Speaker 4:I love the comedy rap. Like I was raised on comedy rap, he was. He's a great artist. Yeah, did you watch the movie? Yes, biopic so good, it was fucking hilarious so good.
Speaker 1:They did such a good job at like picking the characters to play him too. I laughed so good. Yeah, if you haven't seen it, go look at his.
Speaker 4:That was a big era bro, that was a big era, like he had amish paradise. Bro, I've heard that song and like bro, can you relate like we? Only some of us in the united states of america know amish white nerdy.
Speaker 2:We got a lot of.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying, yeah I grew up like two miles from an amish farm. We used to turkey hunt on their property all the time they're like get the fuck out of here no, they loved it because, yeah, they were. They were cool as We'd help them. My buddy had a tractor and he'd bail their hay for them.
Speaker 4:That's so amazing.
Speaker 3:Loopholes, yeah, loopholes baby Loopholes.
Speaker 4:They're living dude.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah you could get double yolk eggs a dollar a dozen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they could promise that it was double yolked up.
Speaker 3:Yeah because they have to check them all before they chickens and they sold like grade a organic eggs to the stores no, no, just regular eggs. But if they had double yolks then they would keep them separate and sell them at a price are those twins?
Speaker 4:is that?
Speaker 3:I don't know how that works, but I I know that is a that is a question for the the rapper versus redneck I think, yeah, you're right, that's right.
Speaker 1:Areyolked eggs considered fraternal, or what's the other one? Nocturnal, nocturnal, are they nocturnal twins?
Speaker 4:Or is it?
Speaker 3:just a baby with an extra head. This focus won't sleep at night at all.
Speaker 4:Yo, you guys can probably compile 30 Amish questions for the rapper versus redneck. That's actually a really good idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think we need to run it back. Another episode of Redneck versus Rapper with two redneck rappers, jake Lacoste and Travis aka Dirty Prescott Kids.
Speaker 4:I'm interested to see who would actually fucking win, not even on a competitive level, just genuine fucking interest.
Speaker 3:Well, it's got to be competitive, you got to be extremely competitive well, I am I've done two of them now and I've I'm one and one and I'm not really happy. This fool said. They always fucking cheat, though that these two motherfuckers cheat at the end, they always they're always like. They're always like, oh yeah, if he gets it right.
Speaker 2:This is triple points, and then he gets it right and then I get fucked. I'm like what the hell, dude, hey money junkie almost got.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's fucking bullshit money junkie did not know no country shit, he was like bro, I don't want to answer this. Oh yeah, no, he didn't. He didn't and that's okay, it was a great episode money junkie was a good dude, hilarious off and on camera he's so funny yeah, he's.
Speaker 1:He is, uh, the most camera trained guy that we've had on, by far camera comes out, boom, he's on it. Money junkie.
Speaker 3:Hottest mexican in minnesota, hottest mexican in the world oh yeah, it's like this whole thing just boom he rattles it off every time a camera's in front of him, and then he goes right back to just like chilling it's just, it's just a quick little yeah yeah, yeah, he's got an intro himself and love it.
Speaker 2:Such a funny dude being in the industry for so long, have you run into a lot of characters like I'm sure you've seen a lot of people fall off and come to the scene like what, what are some of your influences that you've run into? And like, do you have you run into just any crazy people?
Speaker 4:I guess are we talking artists or people? Both okay so artists, the the saying is true, like don't meet your idols, because you, I think and it's actually I'm not even gonna say that just don't have x like big expectations.
Speaker 4:Well, like this is a person you're gonna meet, up assumptions. This is a person you're gonna meet. It's like it's like some girl you've been trying to get with for a long time or something, and you're like it could go this way. It could be all good, we could be best friends, and then it could work out. And if you let your mind kind of run like that with the artists, you're gonna be pretty fucking disappointed because back again, dude, they just have so much shit going on. They're not don't take it personal, they're not thinking about you and they're like, bro, I don't fucking the.
Speaker 3:The funniest example, or at least the one that popped in my head while you were talking about that, was uh, like obviously you grew up in the michael jordan era of michael jordan being an absolute dominant figure, yeah, from everyone that you, every video you'll ever see in person. He's kind of a dickhead, yeah, and which rightful I mean I'm not saying the dude isn't so whomped constantly. Still, to this day.
Speaker 4:But like you can't expect someone to be who they are, you know, just because they're the greatest basketball player in the world doesn't mean they're going to be your best fucking friend so I was talking about that the other day with kobe and jordan is like the because kobe's a dickhead too is like the level of persistence and the, the level that they're trying to achieve. It's so fucking far ahead. You might have to adopt that entire, those characteristic traits in order to get there.
Speaker 3:Well, once you are the best in the world at something, you kind of have to own that, you kind of have to have the mentality of I am fucking better.
Speaker 1:I don't think I think you have to have that to get to that spot yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I think you're right because, like those people that are the, the 0.0001 they're psychotic about whatever they do, and that seems to be the case with absolutely every person that's in that scenario, that's in a life-changing position. That's like they have such a passion for this thing. They're willing to do and say anything in order to maintain that, and then also have these weird expectations that are so skewed because they're so focused on what they're doing yeah that it changes the way they look at everything I feel like they either go the asshole route or they go the completely off the fucking rails route.
Speaker 4:They just turn into kanye, yeah you know, let's just get crazy, wild, because you don't have anything else to do.
Speaker 3:You don't have anything else to prove right, you know who's the exception posty.
Speaker 4:Why is post always so awesome? He's the most authentic dude.
Speaker 3:I you'll ever see.
Speaker 1:I feel like you know it's actually really funny. My buddy met post malone, not knowing that he met post malone he's. So he works and lives in salt lake city. Utah posty lives in kind of the mountains right outside of salt lake city and just like kind of himself he's got this massive compound right outside and I don't know if that's where he lives all the time or what the deal is. My friend's boss is pretty high up in Salt Lake City. He's very well, you know, he's done well for himself. Anyways, he's at a backyard barbecue at his boss's place. A lot of rich people there just hanging out.
Speaker 1:Meets this guy who's tattooed up and he doesn't listen to pop music, rap music, nothing Like. He's an underground punk guy. No idea who this guy is. Introduces himself as Austin. You know they hang out all night and it was a close group. At the end of the night 10, 12 people Come to find out later on that he was hanging out with Post Malone all night. He had no idea who it was. He just said he was a really nice guy. I had no idea who he was.
Speaker 4:That's the greatest story, because what else are you going to fucking do? You're going to ask him for tickets to the next show bro. Yeah right, Exactly what the fuck You're going to ask him for an autograph when you're about to have a genuine interaction with this man.
Speaker 3:Like fuck that my brother-in-law swears to god that he met uh tyler childers in duluth one time at a fish market, he said, he said absolutely 1000 identical tyler childers wearing a west virginia hat.
Speaker 3:And uh, he said he just like walked up and he's like. He's like, hey, man, um, have you ever heard of tyler childers? And the guy kind of smirked and he's just like nah, no, he's like, and chris is like do you listen to like bluegrass music, like country music, like that? He's like oh yeah, I love it, absolutely love it. And he's like so you don't know who tyler?
Speaker 1:childers is, and the guy just kind of smiled again.
Speaker 3:He's like nah, never heard of him.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's funny it probably was him.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, for sure, because if you listen to bluegrass music or like country music like that in general, you're, you're gonna know who he is wearing a west virginia hat, like yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. Who do you think is some of the the biggest people in the industry that you've gotten to meet or be in the presence of?
Speaker 4:jelly roll really sick.
Speaker 4:I opened up for jelly in like 2019 I think it was at everybody's bar. That was a sold out show. And then, um, I was able to uh, this is a cool story. So jelly rolls, old weed man. Um, I salvaged a really cool relationship with him through instagram and he's actually like a fucking really smart dude. I'll hit him up and just be like bro, what's the like, what's the motivation of the day? And he'll or like you know what's the the, the knowledge of the day, right, and he'll just spit me something. He's he's super smart and, uh, I was able to double back a couple years ago when jelly did um, jelly did a place that just got a tornado hit. Today, lincoln nebraska. Uh, jelly did lincoln nebraska and I was able to to get his, his weed man, which is treetop thc shout out, bro, bro, um for looking out. He hit up jelly's manager and I was able to, you know, like, kick it with them for the night and shit, that's super.
Speaker 1:How is he? How is he in person? He seems like a dog.
Speaker 4:He's got a lot on his fucking plate. That that's what I was gonna say. Like we're in the presence of these people, bro, everyone's asking or telling them something like just be there, bro, and enjoy that. You're in the presence of motherfuckers who are doing something amazing and uh, but honestly, dude he was probably stressed, the or the feeling I got from him, like he was like get, I just want to fucking chill you know, like shit, man it's.
Speaker 3:It's when you get to, when you get that level of stardom, you don't really get chill anymore. It doesn't happen. So anytime you can, you know if you're going to go to the bar and chill. I don't want to kick you out of my section because I don't like you. I just need some time to myself. Yes, yes, so it's hard to like call that guy an asshole because he's not.
Speaker 4:He's just a normal person, exactly. End of the day. You get to view it from that, that point. When you're there, yeah, around them. Um, and then yellow wolf when he did the go go fm is it? Yeah, that's go fest go fast okay they did it in the twins stadium.
Speaker 4:So big shout out to um, to zilla. He that's uh yellow wolf's manager and he's brought me in a few different situations. They're like full backstage with them, not like, and I try to go to these places by myself, dude, like that's how you get in those doors yeah, you can't be rolling them with a squad of people they're not gonna let no seven people in, but they'll let one person.
Speaker 4:Yep, yep one, or like you're you and your guy, but it's better if it's you, because then you're like a part of the squad. If it's you and your guy, it's like, oh, he has, he has a companion, like he fucking, let him go, you know, kick him out or whatever. But that never happened. But you know, um, zilla and yellow wolf like being around them.
Speaker 3:Dude, like man, yellow wolf's a legendary artist, bro, yeah, amazing he's got such a presence, like just the the way that he is. I don't even know he's another one of them, dudes. That's just so unbelievably unique it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Got that charisma, bro yeah.
Speaker 4:I got the shittiest story I got to tell you guys. So I went to South by Southwest with those guys for the Travis Barker showcase, because South by Southwest they just shut down everything and every single venue becomes a show, right. So the star, famous stars and straps.
Speaker 4:He had his own show, so he had paul wall, hopson, yellow wolf, ritz damn, that's a line one b um fuck yes, and like maybe one or two more travis barker, motherfucker, you know what I mean like these guys are all there and and I got fucking drunk and I'm walking around, like I came with these motherfuckers but I got drunk to the point where they like disowned me, like they're like bro, go fucking move around. This is a valuable lesson. That's why I gotta tell this fucking story, dog, and I basically was in the crowd by myself all night when and then later found out because motherfuckers were staying with me at the hotel room like bro was. Like bro, I came out to get you to fucking meet everybody and you're just fucked up, you know, and I remember it like I wasn't, but I was fucked up, I didn't want to meet them.
Speaker 1:Like if I wouldn't have wanted to meet them like that that sucks yeah, man so don't drink.
Speaker 4:If you're trying to make moves, man like, stay, stay in your zone, because god you never know what you you can miss being fucked up absolutely for real man. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I would imagine that happens a lot, especially for people that get the opportunity to open up for big, big artists or their first big break. It's a point of celebration, no doubt. Yeah, I think people take that too far, or as an opportunity to take it too far.
Speaker 3:Or they just do it to kill the nerves and take it too far, mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:It's easy to do, to win. You're like oh, whatever. And then, um, I had linked up with a couple artists before that and I was buying them drinks and so there was like this whole just shit going on. That that took me out of my out of my a game. But I'll never let that happen again, dude, and I'll never forget that story. Like, yeah, dude, I remember tons of moments from that night and I was like fuck that that's badass, though that's a cool story nonetheless.
Speaker 1:But, jake, I know you guys got to get out of here. You got a plane to catch. Why don't we wrap this thing up, plug your socials? Where can everyone find you?
Speaker 4:At Jake Lacoste. My last name is spelled L-A-C-O-S-T-E, but if you search Up North, jake, you're going to find me right now everywhere. Yeah, man, I feel like I'm everywhere, dude.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah.
Speaker 4:Fucking right. Let's go.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah. Well, thanks for coming. On, man we appreciate it.
Speaker 4:Absolute pleasure. You guys are awesome.
